I joined Ryan Koch on the Civic Tech Chat in May. We talked about shifts in the direction of the design and research practice, innovative practices to build capacity and leadership within it, and its future as new tools like artificial intelligence emerge and become part of it.

Civic Tech Chat is a podcast covering the space where technology and the public interest meet. They explore how technologists, policymakers, and communities are reshaping the way public services are designed, delivered, and experienced.

Listen here: https://civictech.chat/episodes/evolution-of-design-and-research-in-civic-tech